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Copenhagen,4/14: Five Minutes to Twelve in Denmark (Anders Gravers)

April 18, 2007 by Christine | 910 Group | 15:02:28 | |

Three speeches were presented at the 4/14 Copenhagen Counter-Jihad Summit, with representatives of groups from the US, UK, Sweden, Denmark and Norway. This is the speech by Anders Gravers, a leader of SIAD (Stop the Islamisation of Denmark). See also The US, UK and Scandinavian Counter-Jihad Summit, by “Baron Bodissey” of Vigilant Freedom/910Group/Gates of Vienna, and What are we fighting against? What are we fighting for? by “Michael Jensen” of SIAD.

SIAD – Five Minutes to Twelve in Denmark

Anders Gravers, SIAD (Denmark)

I will begin by telling about SIAD and how we started.

A group of people from Den Danske Forening, The Danish Society, gathered in June 2005 with a wish of creating a department of the Danish Society, Region North. But rather quickly we experienced that The Danish Society didn’t want to act in any way. All they wanted was only to talk internally about the Islam problems and publish a well informed magazine four times a year.

But our group up north in Jutland were aware that we had to do something now if we would have any chance to save Denmark from the Islamic invasion. We knew that it was five minutes to twelve.

Therefore we decided to start an organisation whose aim was to wake up the Danes through actions and provocations, of course within the limits of the law. All in all to put the government in the devils dilemma, which means, no matter what they did, SIAD would have a win-and-win situation.

If they allowed our demonstrations, there would be serious trouble, and if they wouldn’t allow us to demonstrate, SIAD had proved that the freedom of speech and the right to gather in public was suppressed and eliminated.

The first demonstration took place during the Muhammad crisis, in support of the newspaper Jyllands Posten, who as you know printed the Muhammad cartoons and in support for the freedom of speech. We were 98 participants and the police showed up with around 100 persons.

SIAD decided that the following demonstrations were named “The genocider Hamas out of Scandinavia”. The title was because Hamas was recently elected as a legal government in Palestine and their main goal is to chase the Jews out of Israel and to kill the Jews all over the world. We cannot allow to shelter these kind of people in Denmark.

We held the first demonstration with this title in Århus, the second biggest town, in the ghetto Gellerup just outside the town, where we were met by 800 illegal and violent agitators, who attacked police and journalists with chrysanthemum bombs and rockets fired horizontally! The police were not able to control the mass and ordered our small demonstration, 18 peacefully, mostly elderly people waving the Danish flag, out of the area, despite that WE were the legal demonstrators!

At this demonstration we showed the Danes for the first time, that there are areas in Denmark which are no longer in control, no longer Danish, areas where the freedom of speech and the right to gather in public, are eliminated. Here rules the Muslim law.

We wanted to discover if there were other ghettoes in the country where the situation was the same. And the result is three other places in Denmark where the Danish law is out of order. Three places, Vollsmose – Odense, Gellerup – Århus, Nørrebro – Copenhagen, where SIAD illegally has been denied our right to demonstrate by the police, simply because of the violent immigrant masses.

Three areas today where the Danish constitution is suppressed.

In 2 years, in 5 years, in 10 years, in 20 years, will we have any places to be Danes, to express our constitutional rights??

We have accomplished this: our Minister of Justice, Lene Espersen, has admitted to two politicians from Dansk Folkeparti, (The Danish peoples Party), Peter Skaarup and Søren Espersen, that the police have NO RIGHT to deny our demonstrations, simply because the danger comes from the illegal, violent demonstrators, and NOT from SIAD. So in order to prevent SIAD from demonstrating, she has declared Nødret. In English, Nødret is a constitutional law of emergency towards SIAD. However, she neglected to explain to SIAD and the Danish population several key questions: What exactly is this constitutional law of emergency?, how long will it last?, which groups does it affect? Is it only SIAD? Søren Krarup from The Danish peoples Party will now raise the question in the parliament. So here we are now.

Another devils dilemma we have put on the government are the charges against the Koran of contradicting the Danish constitutions, paragraphs 67 and 69. We have demanded that the imams should not be allowed to read and teach the parts of the Koran which contradict the Danish constitution. That means all the passages of clean/unclean, of believers/non-believers, and all the parts who distinguish between women and men and of course their violent agitation. However we got an answer in 14 days, perhaps because the Danish ambassador in Turkey had to explain again and again that the demand of a prohibition of certain parts of the Koran had nothing to do with the Danish government, and it only came from a small rather unknown party!

I contacted the Minister of Justice and asked the attorney, how she could answer so quickly? She must have known the Koran in advance? She answered, very honestly, that she had never read theKoran. I asked if she based her answer on the Hadith, the life and living of Muhammad. She answered: What is the Hadith?? Of course we have repeated the charges against the Koran!

We know that because Denmark is such a small homogeneous country, where the effects are felt quickly, much quicker than in bigger countries. Because of that we believe that Denmark is the perfect place to practice the anti-jihad actions and thereby affect the population, because we get a response right away. Then we can discover which actions will have the greatest affect on the people, and which actions can be copied to other places, USA, Canada, Australia and the rest of Europe.

I want to thank Baron Bodissey and also the Vigilant Freedom/910 group, first of all for mentioning SIAD on their blogs and for your great support! But also for your encouraging your readers to send mail to our Minister of Justice. We have found out that we have almost the same ideas as the 910 group, so we match very well!

In cooperation with No Sharia in England, we agreed to try to expand the ideas of SIAD to the rest of Europe through the umbrella organisation Stop the Islamisation of Europe - SIOE. I would very much like to share SIOE with Vigilant Freedom/910 group, but we will get into these things later tonight.

SIAD believes that we CAN win this battle against Islamisation with the help from the democracy, that means without the need of real battles and the costs of lives. The democracy has the defence in it self, it is just our governments who haven’t exploited the possibilities of democracy. And therefore we can conclude that today we haven’t got real democracy in our countries. I know that one of our members of board, our philosopher [Michael Jensen], will tell more about the ideas of real democracy. I will pass on the word to him.


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April 18, 2007 @ 15:34:25

[...] Three speeches were given at the April 14, 2007 Counter-Jihad Summit held in Copenhagen by representatives from US, UK, Denmark, Sweden and Norway. See also The UK and Scandinavia Counter-Jihad Summit, presented by Baron Bodissey from Gates of Vienna, and Denmark: Five minutes to Twelve by Anders Gravers. [...]


April 18, 2007 @ 15:50:58

[...] [Update 4/18: See the other speeches presented at 4/14 as well:  Anders Gravers (SIAD) on Denmark - Five Minutes to Twelve, and “Michael Jensen” (SIAD) on What are we fighting against? What are we fighting for?] Now I can tell you the news. The Baron has been in Copenhagen for the last few days. Today he is attending the UK and Scandinavia Counterjihad Summit, organized by the Center for Vigilant Freedom and hosted by SIAD, Exile, Steen, and other members of the Danish blogosphere. [...]


April 19, 2007 @ 10:07:46

[...] Denmark: Five Minutes to Twelve – Anders Gravers, SIAD (Denmark) [...]


April 20, 2007 @ 04:48:24

[...] Next up was Anders Gravers, the leader of SIAD (Stop the Islamification of Denmark). Anders was nervous — he said this was the first time he had ever given a speech in English. But he did a good job, and had some important and inspiring things to say about SIAD. Here are some excerpts: A group of people from Den Danske Forening, The Danish Society, gathered in June 2005 with a wish of creating a department of the Danish Society, Region North. But rather quickly we experienced that The Danish Society didn’t want to act in any way. All they wanted was only to talk internally about the Islam problems and publish a well-informed magazine four times a year. [...]


April 26, 2007 @ 21:08:57

[...] Fairfax, Virginia, USA: April 23, 2007: Political activists and writers from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, the UK and US met on April 14 for the first international Counter-Jihad Summit, at Preben Møller Hansens inn “Den Danske Kro,” and also in separate meetings on April 15. They discussed common problems with the loss of constitutional liberties, individual rights and the rule of law due to Islamist groups who impose sharia laws and jihadist terrorism and criminality. Speeches by US and Danish attendees are available at: http://www.vigilantfreedom.org/910blog/2007/04/18/414-speech-by-anders-gravers-five-minutes-to-twelve-in-denmark/.. [...]


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