27 Comments »

Thank you, Baron

Perhaps this should make it into the forum as well. The wider the audience, the better.
I would back up this up with the observation that our enemy is very skilled. They will turn the slightest mishap against us, and do so in a very effective manner - so no need to give them extra rope. I would reroute people to discussions of 5GW. Let’s be smart and effective. I firmly believe that’s why we’re here.

“Derogatory descriptions of people based on their group affiliation.”

Does this mean I can’t harangue Democrats?

“Islam is universally bad”

If that is a no-no, how about Islam is the most evil cult ever placed on this planet?

Is that also forbidden?

If the 910 group does not understand, advertise and believe that Islam is the problem, they in my opinion are no better off than the average American who thinks Islam is just a religion. They also will not be able to defeat it.

Think about it.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

What Papa Ray said — The term “Moderate Muslim” is an oxymoron.

This sounds like founding an anti-Nazi coalition with one of the bylaws as:

Positions which advance the “all Nazis are evil and Nazism is universally bad” meme are unacceptable.

You are crippling yourself before you ever get started by building compromise and appeasement directly into the core of your organization. Don’t get me wrong, I wish you lots of luck, but Islam was founded as a religion of conquest, and its followers act the same way today. I’ll say no more….

Perhaps the problem with the term “moderate muslim” is in understanding what “moderate” means to both sides. In newspeak, being a “moderate” means you may not always fully countenance blowing up children on public transport but all other Islamist goals are still largely supportable. While that might make them “moderate” to our middle class university students (and apostates to the Islamists) it’s hardly tolerant or peaceable. Anyway, if there are more than half a dozen “moderate” Muslims in the world then it’s long past time they stood up to be counted (but then they’d have to live in fear of their lives like the rest of us non-muslims)

W. Edwards Deming, the Wyoming-born, Yale-educated Ph.D. physicist who was called upon by General MacArthur to “reconstitute” post-war Japan’s industrial base, pointed out time and time again that if there is a problem, 85% of the cause lies with the system, not with the people.

Of course, he was referring at the time to industry, but Deming, the creator of the famous “quality management” system, soon demonstrated that his principles applied to any system, not just those in industry.

Systems such as education and governance benefit from adopting the Deming philosophy - and so could Muslims.

Deming might have said something like this: “85% of the problem lies with Islam, not with Muslims.”

It is clear that it is Islam that must change. First, Muslims are born as normal human beings, but they are subjected to a life-long program that prevents them from functioning successfully in the world. As it stands now, the state-religion fusion makes any change of Islam, even those leading to success for its membership, a legal and moral no-no; change is forbidden under sharia.

The conditions under which we live change all the time, and we must meet the challenges of change in order to survive. A recent historical example of the refusal to meet the requirements of reality are seen among the Vikings who colonized Greenland. Greenland was so named because the Vikings settled it during a warm period where plants could grow and their livestock could survive.

Then came the “Little Ice Age.” The climate changed, but the Vikings refused to adapt. They would not change their dietary habits, they would not change the way they provided shelter for themselves, they would not change their hunting weapons, they would not change the way we dressed, and when supply ships could no longer reach them because of the ice, they died. Not a single member of the Greenland Viking colony survived the Little Ice Age.

Their demise was not necessary; they had the successful example of the local Inuit, who had lived there for many generations, that they could have followed - but they chose not to, and they went extinct.

Islam, with it’s refusal to change to meet the changing demands of reality, will one day go extinct, just as the Viking colony did. Eventually, people will tire of their antics, and our own governments, currently living with their heads in the sand, will respond appropriately under pressure from the desire of their people to survive and thrive.

Many people in the world understand that it will take a massive “wake-up call” to effect an appropriate response to the system of Islam by our slow-learners in government, and perhaps they won’t learn the lesson in time for many of our countries to survive in their present form; nonetheless, the people will remain, and we will ultimately win the battle for survival against the system of Islam.

I cannot discern the nuance of the qualifier “inciteful” in requirement #3. Is this irony? English as a second language?

Hello Everyone:

Thanks for all your ‘insightful’ comments about what should have been a simple set of guidelines. Hopefully they are now simpler, and simply easier on the eye, and will not incite so much reaction.

As most of you know, the 910 Group has evolved quickly, and many decisions have been made very quickly, and nothing is actually carved in stone. We adapt. How about we just now take the intention of the blogroll guidelines, which is ‘don’t be a jerk’ and we leave the semantics aside. English, yes, for me, is a second language, if not a third. (Thanks Baron for helping get us going and keeping us clean.)

Let’s move forward. I think I can drive this thing now, although I doubt I’m qualified for passengers yet. For those who like to look for nuanced qualifiers in my ESL practices (hi voirdire), have at it. Right now I’m looking for the trim controls on this bird, and will do my best to avoid any wild yaw pitch or roll.

on the level,
VSK

Clear as a bell!

We hope the new guidelines are simpler and better. The improvements are due to your responses and good criticisms. Some background on the use of the word “incitement” since the question was raised. A quick review of the key legal cases and issues involved in “incitement” is here:
http://tinyurl.com/48xxj

a legal term of art better unused unless you wish to grapple with issues of intent and probability.

So my blog must advocate change only through lawful activities and refrain from condoning violence unless in cases of self-defence or military action?

Is this meant to be serious?

Who decides what constitutes self defence?
Who decides what constitutes lawful activity?
Who decides what constitutes military action?
Who decides when military action is appropriate or legal?

Let’s assume my country were invaded by a foreign power on a ‘pre-emptive’ prospectus that turned out to be wrong.

Am I right in thinking The 910 group would accept blogs from Iraqi insurgents on the basis that they are using violence within terms you would find acceptable?

Greetings,
How do I join your blogroll?

Just wanted to inform you that sometimes foreign characters in titles on the blogroll cause markup validation errors and other problems for sites. Example that I just tracked down:

www.precaution.ch
Une collection d�arguments en faveur de l�interdiction de l�Islam en Suisse

Le devoir de pr�caution [fr]

I’ve been forced to remove the 910 Blogroll widget from my site until this is resolved.

Try: http://danmark.wordpress.com/tag/english-versions/

Danmark is such a blog (1-3)

J. E. Vig, Denmark

I thought I was a member of this blogroll, but I don’t see a listing for my site. Can you please check and advise me? It is unlikely that my sign up email is active, so that may be the problem. I don’t remember which site it was.

Please consider my blog for the 910 Group Blogroll. If approved, please email instructions on adding the blogroll to my own blog. Thanks.

I’m following up to check the status of my request to be added that I submitted per your guidelines in the forum (about a month back).

Got your email (thanks!) but still not seeing me on the blogroll.

PS- I just saw it here on this one page (twice), but not on the main blogroll or headlines… is there a glitch?

Please consider my blog for your blogroll.

Michael

Please consider my site, Smooth Stone, http://smoothstone.blogspot.com, for inclusion in your blogroll.

Thank you,
Smooth

Dear all
Thank you for your efforts towards the well being of this great nation. I, like you wish to see the best continuing for this phenomenal country (the most interesting in human history) and the people of other countries. One clarification that needs to be made though is that I am not a member of CASMII and I would highly appreciate this correction to be made in your analyses.
With thanks and best wishes,
Mohamad Navab

[…] Back in July we wrote about The National Iranian American Council Mr. Mohammad Navab, a member of NIAC, (see here,here, and here) and indicating that he was also a board member of the Campaign Against Sanctions And Military Action In Iran (CASMII). Today, we received a comment from Mr. Navab: (see here): Dear all Thank you for your efforts towards the well being of this great nation. I, like you wish to see the best continuing for this phenomenal country (the most interesting in human history) and the people of other countries. One clarification that needs to be made though is that I am not a member of CASMII and I would highly appreciate this correction to be made in your analyses. With thanks and best wishes, Mohamad Navab […]

Hi!

I’d like my site considered for inclusion, both on your blogroll and in your headlines. I joined the forums about a month ago, but I’ve never heard anything.

Is there anything else I need to be aware of to join?

Thanks!

Please place my site under consideration.

Ironic Surrealism II
http://conservablogs.com/velvethammer

Regards,
Velvet Hammer

Leave a comment

Name (required)

Mail (will not be published) (required)

Website